Discussion:
Luminosity and Knowing
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blu
2006-10-08 22:35:52 UTC
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With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.

 --The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn


Thoughts?
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Halloween BuZZard
2006-10-08 23:53:21 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
sitting five feet from the monitor.. laying on the bed..squinting to read
that..
.. my mind has turned into clear water.. or tears from straining...
so... knowing as much as I do now.. I have had a apifany.. and its clear to
me
now.. that I need either bigger print.. or eye glasses.. or.. I need to pull
the monitor
closer to my fat face.
blu
2006-10-09 06:06:47 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind does
not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will abide
empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its very
entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own accord
without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural state, and
observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this practice, it
is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
sitting five feet from the monitor.. laying on the bed..squinting to read
that..
.. my mind has turned into clear water.. or tears from straining... so...
knowing as much as I do now.. I have had a apifany.. and its clear to me
now.. that I need either bigger print.. or eye glasses.. or.. I need to
pull the monitor
closer to my fat face.
Another Zen moment from da BuZzard.. ;)
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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Tom
2006-10-09 04:06:31 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
IHNW, IJLS "mere luminosity and knowing".
Post by blu
As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Thoughts about no thought?
blu
2006-10-09 04:30:15 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
IHNW, IJLS "mere luminosity and knowing".
Err.. what are those acronyms? I'm unfamiliar.
Post by Tom
Post by blu
As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its very
entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own accord
without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural state, and
observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this practice, it
is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Thoughts about no thought?
LOL!! Exactly!!
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
Tom
2006-10-09 05:55:32 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
IHNW, IJLS "mere luminosity and knowing".
Err.. what are those acronyms? I'm unfamiliar.
An ancient Usenet dialect. "I have no warlord, I just like saying..."
blu
2006-10-09 06:04:43 UTC
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Post by Tom
Post by blu
Post by Tom
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
IHNW, IJLS "mere luminosity and knowing".
Err.. what are those acronyms? I'm unfamiliar.
An ancient Usenet dialect. "I have no warlord, I just like saying..."
Thank you kindly. I've been around close to 10 years and have never seen
these.

I 'specially like the "I have no warlord" ya.. I like that one.
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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Martin Swain
2006-10-09 17:25:31 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)

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Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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Meltdarok
2006-10-09 22:09:53 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest
trance anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being. After such a state, the only way I know how much "time"
has passed, is by checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an
occasion. I also find that after all these years, listening to music
through headphones can still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
Post by Martin Swain
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This photo is upside down.
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blu
2006-10-09 22:41:24 UTC
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only, my throat
will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I still reach
"lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't know if 30
minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years that there is
a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this state of being.
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
I can totally zone with headphones and a game, like shisen-sho.
Look around and 4-5 hours are gone. And it's a mindless game..

But, you know, about the not being able to get into a deep trance state..
I've noticed that whenever I'm trying to do something 'deep' or 'involved'
the distractions come from everywhere. I just figure the timing is off and
try again later. And that usually works.
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
Meltdarok
2006-10-10 02:44:18 UTC
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only, my throat
will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I still reach
"lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't know if 30
minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years that there is
a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this state of being.
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
The advantage to music being that usually the end of the passage is my
cue to return to regular consciousness.
Post by blu
I can totally zone with headphones and a game, like shisen-sho.
Look around and 4-5 hours are gone. And it's a mindless game..
Not quite what I am talking about, but I can do that with "Rise of
Nations" (I like the old MOD Akan, and like to use it with the Nubians
and the Bantu)," "Diablo II," and five card draw (you can save Texas
Hold'em for TV).
Post by blu
But, you know, about the not being able to get into a deep trance state..
I've noticed that whenever I'm trying to do something 'deep' or 'involved'
the distractions come from everywhere. I just figure the timing is off and
try again later. And that usually works.
I now *must* use sleep.
--
meltdarok
http://hometown.aol.com/meltdarok/
blu
2006-10-10 02:49:39 UTC
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived
or felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which
anything is capable of appearing and which, when appropriate
conditions arise, can be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
As long as the mind does not encounter the external circumstance of
conceptuality, it will abide empty without anything appearing in it,
like clear water. Its very entity is that of mere experience. Let the
mind flow of its own accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind
rest in its natural state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you
are not used to this practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the
mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest
trance anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only, my
throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being. After such a state, the only way I know how much "time"
has passed, is by checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an
occasion. I also find that after all these years, listening to music
through headphones can still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
The advantage to music being that usually the end of the passage is my cue
to return to regular consciousness.
There is that.. personally, I tend to pull up 6-7 hour playlists.. but I
know what you mean. A specific piece of music, or one of those
"meditation" cd's that are out there. I've downloaded one but haven't
listened to it yet. (and that's been months ago)
I can totally zone with headphones and a game, like shisen-sho. Look
around and 4-5 hours are gone. And it's a mindless game..
Not quite what I am talking about, but I can do that with "Rise of
Nations" (I like the old MOD Akan, and like to use it with the Nubians and
the Bantu)," "Diablo II," and five card draw (you can save Texas Hold'em
for TV).
heheh Shisen-sho is a tile game. Like Mah-Jongg. Match the symbols.
Utterly mindless. The games you're talking about would take attention (for
me) and wouldn't put me in 'the zone' that I'm talking about.. but
whatever works for you. As for Texas Hold'em.. Feh~ keep it in the casino.
I don't wanna watch it, play it.. no part of it. LOL!!
But, you know, about the not being able to get into a deep trance
state.. I've noticed that whenever I'm trying to do something 'deep' or
'involved' the distractions come from everywhere. I just figure the
timing is off and try again later. And that usually works.
I now *must* use sleep.
I sleep so little.. when I do it's a total blank. Gone.
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
Meltdarok
2006-10-10 03:22:44 UTC
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Post by blu
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived
or felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which
anything is capable of appearing and which, when appropriate
conditions arise, can be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
As long as the mind does not encounter the external circumstance of
conceptuality, it will abide empty without anything appearing in it,
like clear water. Its very entity is that of mere experience. Let the
mind flow of its own accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind
rest in its natural state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you
are not used to this practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the
mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest
trance anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only, my
throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being. After such a state, the only way I know how much "time"
has passed, is by checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an
occasion. I also find that after all these years, listening to music
through headphones can still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
The advantage to music being that usually the end of the passage is my cue
to return to regular consciousness.
There is that.. personally, I tend to pull up 6-7 hour playlists..
I'm an old school guy that owned the first auto-reverse cassette deck on
my block. I can call up 72 hour playlists, but I prefer 2-3 hours at
most. One of my favorite tapes *is* Pink Floyd's "A Nice Pair." I never
had the heart to toss it after it broke. The hours I listened to that
tape. . .
Post by blu
but I
know what you mean. A specific piece of music, or one of those
"meditation" cd's that are out there. I've downloaded one but haven't
listened to it yet. (and that's been months ago)
I can totally zone with headphones and a game, like shisen-sho. Look
around and 4-5 hours are gone. And it's a mindless game..
Not quite what I am talking about, but I can do that with "Rise of
Nations" (I like the old MOD Akan, and like to use it with the Nubians and
the Bantu)," "Diablo II," and five card draw (you can save Texas Hold'em
for TV).
heheh Shisen-sho is a tile game. Like Mah-Jongg.
I used to play Mah-Jongg constantly , but haven't in years.

http://cynagames.com/
Post by blu
Match the symbols.
Utterly mindless.
Not for me.
Post by blu
The games you're talking about would take attention (for
me) and wouldn't put me in 'the zone' that I'm talking about.. but
whatever works for you. As for Texas Hold'em.. Feh~ keep it in the casino.
I don't wanna watch it, play it.. no part of it. LOL!!
But, you know, about the not being able to get into a deep trance
state.. I've noticed that whenever I'm trying to do something 'deep' or
'involved' the distractions come from everywhere. I just figure the
timing is off and try again later. And that usually works.
I now *must* use sleep.
I sleep so little.. when I do it's a total blank. Gone.
--
meltdarok
http://hometown.aol.com/meltdarok/
blu
2006-10-10 07:35:36 UTC
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Post by Meltdarok
Post by blu
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived
or felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which
anything is capable of appearing and which, when appropriate
conditions arise, can be generated in the image of whatsoever
object. As long as the mind does not encounter the external
circumstance of conceptuality, it will abide empty without anything
appearing in it, like clear water. Its very entity is that of mere
experience. Let the mind flow of its own accord without conceptual
overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural state, and observe it. In
the beginning, when you are not used to this practice, it is quite
difficult, but in time the mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited
by Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest
trance anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I
don't know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over
the years that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I
reach this state of being. After such a state, the only way I know
how much "time" has passed, is by checking a clock, which has
surprised me on many an occasion. I also find that after all these
years, listening to music through headphones can still be fruitful
with my meditation techniques.
The advantage to music being that usually the end of the passage is my
cue to return to regular consciousness.
There is that.. personally, I tend to pull up 6-7 hour playlists..
I'm an old school guy that owned the first auto-reverse cassette deck on
my block. I can call up 72 hour playlists, but I prefer 2-3 hours at most.
One of my favorite tapes *is* Pink Floyd's "A Nice Pair." I never had the
heart to toss it after it broke. The hours I listened to that tape. . .
I pulled up 7 hours of the Steve Spliff show (pirate radio) one day and
got totally lost, till I heard my nym mentioned.. that snapped me right
out of it. Gods, but I love pirate radio. Being a DJ was my childhood
dream. Who'da thought it'd actually happen??
Post by Meltdarok
Post by blu
but I
know what you mean. A specific piece of music, or one of those
"meditation" cd's that are out there. I've downloaded one but haven't
listened to it yet. (and that's been months ago)
Post by Meltdarok
I can totally zone with headphones and a game, like shisen-sho. Look
around and 4-5 hours are gone. And it's a mindless game..
Not quite what I am talking about, but I can do that with "Rise of
Nations" (I like the old MOD Akan, and like to use it with the Nubians
and the Bantu)," "Diablo II," and five card draw (you can save Texas
Hold'em for TV).
heheh Shisen-sho is a tile game. Like Mah-Jongg.
I used to play Mah-Jongg constantly , but haven't in years.
http://cynagames.com/
I used to play Kyodai. The mah-jongg for *nix isn't nearly as cool, but
it's still mah-jongg.
Post by Meltdarok
Post by blu
Match the symbols.
Utterly mindless.
Not for me.
No? I just zone. Same with solitaire. I can start playing solitaire now
and look up and see light coming in the window. (it's 12:34am)
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
Martin Swain
2006-10-09 23:20:57 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being.
Sound of blood in your ears?
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
If losing track of time is your measure of success, surely there must be
better, more reliable ways to achieve that? I'm serious, I don't think one
has to sit to meditate.
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
This photo is upside down.
Depends on how one looks at it, I guess.
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Post by blu
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blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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meltdarok
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unknown
2006-10-09 23:48:24 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:20:57 GMT, "Martin Swain"
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being.
Sound of blood in your ears?
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
If losing track of time is your measure of success, surely there must be
better, more reliable ways to achieve that? I'm serious, I don't think one
has to sit to meditate.
I will agree here. I have found that music can be very therapeutic.
Even when working, etc...
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http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
This photo is upside down.
Depends on how one looks at it, I guess.
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Halloween BuZZard
2006-10-10 04:51:11 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:20:57 GMT, "Martin Swain"
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being.
Sound of blood in your ears?
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
If losing track of time is your measure of success, surely there must be
better, more reliable ways to achieve that? I'm serious, I don't think one
has to sit to meditate.
I will agree here. I have found that music can be very therapeutic.
Even when working, etc...
I did a shot of absynth .. and was in that frame of mind in amsterdam.
Meltdarok
2006-10-10 02:52:47 UTC
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest trance
anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However, I
still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I don't
know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over the years
that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I reach this
state of being.
Sound of blood in your ears?
I use the marks because it's not a physical sound.
Post by Martin Swain
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed, is by
checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion. I also find
that after all these years, listening to music through headphones can
still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
If losing track of time is your measure of success, surely there must be
better, more reliable ways to achieve that? I'm serious, I don't think one
has to sit to meditate.
I laugh at this response, and I sing very often.
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
This photo is upside down.
Depends on how one looks at it, I guess.
It does, doesn't it?
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
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blu 3=3
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Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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Martin Swain
2006-10-10 15:07:44 UTC
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Post by Martin Swain
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be
perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which
anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
It's funny, but my body no longer allows me to go into the deepest
trance anymore. Before I can "sink" down into "pure awareness" only,
my throat will itch, then I will cough and disturb myself. However,
I still reach "lighter" trances where time loses any meaning, and I
don't know if 30 minutes have passed, or 3 hours. I've noticed over
the years that there is a characteristic "buzz" that I "hear" when I
reach this state of being.
Sound of blood in your ears?
I use the marks because it's not a physical sound.
That's interesting.
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Meltdarok
After such a state, the only way I know how much "time" has passed,
is by checking a clock, which has surprised me on many an occasion.
I also find that after all these years, listening to music through
headphones can still be fruitful with my meditation techniques.
If losing track of time is your measure of success, surely there must be
better, more reliable ways to achieve that? I'm serious, I don't think one
has to sit to meditate.
I laugh at this response, and I sing very often.
Find the princess that way, so I'm told.
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
This photo is upside down.
Depends on how one looks at it, I guess.
It does, doesn't it?
Post by Martin Swain
Post by Meltdarok
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
--
blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
--
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http://hometown.aol.com/meltdarok/
blu
2006-10-09 22:33:13 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:25:31 +0000 "Martin Swain"
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind does
not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will abide
empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its very
entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own accord
without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural state, and
observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this practice, it
is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
Heh.. how so?
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
Pretty. Where is Mt Kidd?
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blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
Martin Swain
2006-10-09 23:25:51 UTC
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Post by blu
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:25:31 +0000 "Martin Swain"
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind does
not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will abide
empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its very
entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own accord
without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural state, and
observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this practice, it
is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
Heh.. how so?
They are like bubbles that disturb the surface of the water, and in so doing
distort
the image that might otherwise be seen there.
Post by blu
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
Pretty. Where is Mt Kidd?
http://www.cd.gov.ab.ca/enjoying_alberta/parks/featured/kananaskis/flashindex.asp
Post by blu
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blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
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blu
2006-10-09 23:30:27 UTC
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:25:51 +0000 "Martin Swain"
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 17:25:31 +0000 "Martin Swain"
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived
or felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which
anything is capable of appearing and which, when appropriate
conditions arise, can be generated in the image of whatsoever object.
As long as the mind does not encounter the external circumstance of
conceptuality, it will abide empty without anything appearing in it,
like clear water. Its very entity is that of mere experience. Let the
mind flow of its own accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind
rest in its natural state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you
are not used to this practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the
mind appears like clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Are like farts in the bathtub. :)
Heh.. how so?
They are like bubbles that disturb the surface of the water, and in so
doing distort
the image that might otherwise be seen there.
Thanks Martin. Good explanation. One that even I can understand. :)
Post by Martin Swain
Post by blu
Post by Martin Swain
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e275/martin_swain/MtKidd-WedgePond.jpg
Pretty. Where is Mt Kidd?
http://www.cd.gov.ab.ca/enjoying_alberta/parks/featured/kananaskis/flashindex.asp
Oh man.. how beautiful. Thanks again. Gorgeous.
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blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
blu 3=3
master of irrelevance
Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
-Jim Morrison
http://blu05.port5.com/
David Carter
2006-10-09 07:15:42 UTC
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Post by blu
With persistent practice, consciousness may eventually be perceived or
felt as an entity of mere luminosity and knowing, to which anything is
capable of appearing and which, when appropriate conditions arise, can
be generated in the image of whatsoever object. As long as the mind
does not encounter the external circumstance of conceptuality, it will
abide empty without anything appearing in it, like clear water. Its
very entity is that of mere experience. Let the mind flow of its own
accord without conceptual overlay. Let the mind rest in its natural
state, and observe it. In the beginning, when you are not used to this
practice, it is quite difficult, but in time the mind appears like
clear water.
--The Dalai Lama, in The Dalai Lama: A Policy of Kindness, edited by
Sidney Piburn
Thoughts?
Agreed.

Carter

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